I just read of an instance within a Washington state prison where a female guard was strangled to death by an inmate. I read some pretty interesting comments. A few stuck out.
I am NOT sexist. One such comment - "A five foot woman isn't going to do much against a six foot man unless she's spent 20 years in a Buddhist temple." I do believe that's true.
For one - I think it's Equality v.s. Inability. AKA - A woman has to put a great deal more effort into building muscle than a man would, and a man's body is naturally designed to build muscle mass.
I mean - if you were a prisoner, and you saw a 5'8" Man, 190 pounds - none of it fat (my weight is in the right place, I'm fairly in shape), and 5'8" woman, 190 pounds - weight in the right places. Which one would you go for first to make your escape?
Now - What if that 5'8" man had no combat experience? What if that 5'8" woman was a 4th degree black belt? The prisoner would still think the woman was the easy path and get his butt kicked.
I believe in equal rights, but unless the woman is proven at self-defense, or can at least match the average inmate in strength - they shouldn't be working there. Same thing for a man.
Now what do you think? Should Men work in Women prisons or Women in Men's prisons?
I think they shouldn't, only because women officers have less rights in a male prison (They have to call in male officers to search for weapons). And same thing with a male.
I think that that isn't all true because the guard is armed and can usually defend herself, but the thing is no one can really defend yourself when you're getting a cheep shot and that normally is the entire fight in situations like the one you describe.
Most guards in those types of facilities only have their night-sticks. I don't know if you've met a person like me, but if you hit me with something, you're going to tick me off - not hurt me. I've known people who work there, and they say the most you get - pepperspray, night sticks, and in RARE cases in which the top guy (can't remember the title) had to fight to get for them - tasers.
-- Edited by Neurotic Death Panda on Sunday 30th of January 2011 07:47:26 PM
-- Edited by Neurotic Death Panda on Sunday 30th of January 2011 07:48:12 PM
Actually no they carry night-sticks, mace, and a few other toys to keep prisoners at bay. And just a note unless you have metal plates all over your skull you will be hurt a lot when a guy who weighs 280 pounds of mussel smashes your head into concrete.
Both are easy to slam down when you know what you're doing. What I'm saying is it's besides the point by the time you get to use your fighting experience you already lost so it doesn't matter if your a dude or a chick.
Not really. Take my night-stick, I'm better with my hands than with a weapon believe it or not. Besides - most prisoners haven't had structured training. Let just about any average Joe fight this panda. Luck plays a part, but when it comes down to it, the more experienced fighter will win. Especially if they will cheap-shot, etc.
... I think your definition of night stick is different from mine. Mine can be used to break bones, you can have your blackbelt all you like but when I break your knee it is checkmate.
... You don't know much about martial artists, do you? It's called bone conditioning. I know a guy who can dent iron with a kick from his shin, and quite effectively block a swing with a bat. Furthermore, good luck getting to MY knee when I am on top of you, or attacking your face.
Point is - in a fight - you can't really coordinate your swings. Things you say work very well in theory, but in an actual fight - not practical.
-- Edited by Neurotic Death Panda on Sunday 30th of January 2011 08:16:28 PM
I know enough to know that a guy who spent his life training can still be brought down by a nice not so healthy dose of pepper spray and a few hits with a weapon Made To Hurt People. And furthermore, you're on top of me? Thanks for exposing your back, hope you have fun in your wheelchair.
Yes that is always true whether you are a martial artist or a trained cop. But you know what is not practical, putting halfway decent martial artists in every prison.
Let me explain this - do you know how powerful adrenaline is? You can be so angry that pepper-spray won't even be felt. Heck - some people can even pull taser prongs out. Thirdly, if I'm on top of you, I'm beating you in the face, let's see how hard you can swing that night stick and defend yourself to my 'back'.
Yes the pepper spray can be shrugged off but it still makes you blind. Also they can do that but only if they are both prepared to do it, like with a three two one countdown, and they are like 100 pounds overweight. And with your last thing I just need to drop the stick with a little bit of force and you nice unprotected back is now filled with crushed marble.
Oh and just for fun since you got the jump on me let me have the jump on you. This is my night stick full force into an unprotected back of the head... ahhh don't brains look pretty when they fly?
